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	<title>Comments on: Christian fundamentalists put freaks on parade</title>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30652</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John &amp; Dave - 

You should both think really hard before you spout this crap.  Do you NOT think that YOUR mother continuing her pregnancy with you was a huge leap of faith?  How disappointed they must be. You are basically no better than Nazi&#039;s.  Genocide anyone?  Come near my son and I&#039;ll drop ya like a hot coal.

Stephanie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &amp; Dave &#8211; </p>
<p>You should both think really hard before you spout this crap.  Do you NOT think that YOUR mother continuing her pregnancy with you was a huge leap of faith?  How disappointed they must be. You are basically no better than Nazi&#8217;s.  Genocide anyone?  Come near my son and I&#8217;ll drop ya like a hot coal.</p>
<p>Stephanie.</p>
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		<title>By: Hector</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30642</link>
		<dc:creator>Hector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is keep your opinions to yourself you ignorant fucking bigot.

There you go, it is public, now go into a hole and die!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is keep your opinions to yourself you ignorant fucking bigot.</p>
<p>There you go, it is public, now go into a hole and die!</p>
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		<title>By: Sheree</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30641</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My greatest hope in scientific discovery is that one day doctors will have the ability to perform prenatal tests in which a mother would be able to foresee if the baby she was carrying would be an ignorant dick such as yourself. At that point, I would hope she would terminate and never, EVER look back. 

The world would certainly be a better place without a prick like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My greatest hope in scientific discovery is that one day doctors will have the ability to perform prenatal tests in which a mother would be able to foresee if the baby she was carrying would be an ignorant dick such as yourself. At that point, I would hope she would terminate and never, EVER look back. </p>
<p>The world would certainly be a better place without a prick like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Kleidy</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30640</link>
		<dc:creator>Kleidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current and preferred terminology is Down syndrome.

I have the highest respect and admiration for parents of individuals with Down syndrome. They just love their children for being who they are “their children”.

I can tell you that my best teacher has been an individual with Down syndrome.  She teaches me constantly what is most important in life.  Her lessons about love and acceptance are priceless. Seeing her live such a joyful life, so full of love, always inspires me and makes me happy.

I also know many individuals with a lot of money and college degrees that are so miserable. I see them suffering all the time. Their lives are so empty and sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current and preferred terminology is Down syndrome.</p>
<p>I have the highest respect and admiration for parents of individuals with Down syndrome. They just love their children for being who they are “their children”.</p>
<p>I can tell you that my best teacher has been an individual with Down syndrome.  She teaches me constantly what is most important in life.  Her lessons about love and acceptance are priceless. Seeing her live such a joyful life, so full of love, always inspires me and makes me happy.</p>
<p>I also know many individuals with a lot of money and college degrees that are so miserable. I see them suffering all the time. Their lives are so empty and sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheesh</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30639</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait till they develop fetal testing for Asshole-ism, so then we can start eliminating people like you before they&#039;re even born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait till they develop fetal testing for Asshole-ism, so then we can start eliminating people like you before they&#8217;re even born.</p>
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		<title>By: wondering</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30636</link>
		<dc:creator>wondering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you had a “typical” child who was in a car accident and sustained a brain injury that left him or her with cognitive impairment, would you suddenly see that child’s life as any less valuable?&quot;

If the answer is yes (and it would almost have to be given your opinions expressed on this blog), I wonder why your child would be less valuable to you? If for any reason your perfect child lost his health or some cognitive abilities (or just grew up to be not so bright) what would you find to love and value about him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you had a “typical” child who was in a car accident and sustained a brain injury that left him or her with cognitive impairment, would you suddenly see that child’s life as any less valuable?&#8221;</p>
<p>If the answer is yes (and it would almost have to be given your opinions expressed on this blog), I wonder why your child would be less valuable to you? If for any reason your perfect child lost his health or some cognitive abilities (or just grew up to be not so bright) what would you find to love and value about him?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30635</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is quite a bit of misinformation in your post.  First of all, let me just tell you that I am atheist, and I am also the mother of a child with Down syndrome.  I did not give birth to my child as a sacrifice to any faith or religion; I simply believe that every human life has value.  Furthermore, you are very mistaken to assume that my child is &quot;a tremendous burden&quot; on my family; he is NOT a burden.  He is a child with some challenges.  What child, pray tell, comes without challenges?  Perhaps some of my son&#039;s challenges are unique to Down syndrome, but he is far, far from a burden. If you had a &quot;typical&quot; child who was in a car accident and sustained a brain injury that left him or her with cognitive impairment, would you suddenly see that child&#039;s life as any less valuable?

The range of impact on health and intellectual abilities is great among people with Ds, so your characterization that &quot;Down [sic] not only severely impacts the health and life expectancy of the child . . . .&quot; is just plain bad information.  Not all people with Ds have health problems; some have none at all, some have minor health issues, and some have more serious health issues.  Just like the general population, actually.  Your commenter&#039;s characterization of people with Ds as &quot;massively retarded&quot; is also incorrect.  People with Down syndrome typically fall into the mild to moderate range of mental retardation, which means that, while they may never become brain surgeons or rocket scientists, they are perfectly capable of being fully functioning people who contribute to society.

It is not only intelligence that separates humans from animals.  It is also compassion and tolerance.  Your post illustrates that you are lacking in all three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is quite a bit of misinformation in your post.  First of all, let me just tell you that I am atheist, and I am also the mother of a child with Down syndrome.  I did not give birth to my child as a sacrifice to any faith or religion; I simply believe that every human life has value.  Furthermore, you are very mistaken to assume that my child is &#8220;a tremendous burden&#8221; on my family; he is NOT a burden.  He is a child with some challenges.  What child, pray tell, comes without challenges?  Perhaps some of my son&#8217;s challenges are unique to Down syndrome, but he is far, far from a burden. If you had a &#8220;typical&#8221; child who was in a car accident and sustained a brain injury that left him or her with cognitive impairment, would you suddenly see that child&#8217;s life as any less valuable?</p>
<p>The range of impact on health and intellectual abilities is great among people with Ds, so your characterization that &#8220;Down [sic] not only severely impacts the health and life expectancy of the child . . . .&#8221; is just plain bad information.  Not all people with Ds have health problems; some have none at all, some have minor health issues, and some have more serious health issues.  Just like the general population, actually.  Your commenter&#8217;s characterization of people with Ds as &#8220;massively retarded&#8221; is also incorrect.  People with Down syndrome typically fall into the mild to moderate range of mental retardation, which means that, while they may never become brain surgeons or rocket scientists, they are perfectly capable of being fully functioning people who contribute to society.</p>
<p>It is not only intelligence that separates humans from animals.  It is also compassion and tolerance.  Your post illustrates that you are lacking in all three.</p>
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		<title>By: ds.mama</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30634</link>
		<dc:creator>ds.mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, my response to your Ds postings is a bit long for a comment box, so I have posted it on my blog. I invite you to come read it. If you choose to comment back there, I would ask that you use good manners since the blog is read my many parents of children with Down syndrome. Thanks for your willingness to engage in conversations on this topic.

http://downsyndromenewmama.blogspot.com/2009/07/for-david-and-his-disciples.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, my response to your Ds postings is a bit long for a comment box, so I have posted it on my blog. I invite you to come read it. If you choose to comment back there, I would ask that you use good manners since the blog is read my many parents of children with Down syndrome. Thanks for your willingness to engage in conversations on this topic.</p>
<p><a href="http://downsyndromenewmama.blogspot.com/2009/07/for-david-and-his-disciples.html" rel="nofollow">http://downsyndromenewmama.blogspot.com/2009/07/for-david-and-his-disciples.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pastorius</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30633</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Anon 2,
I searched for it via Google cache and was not able to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anon 2,<br />
I searched for it via Google cache and was not able to find it.</p>
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		<title>By: MK</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30632</link>
		<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems as though a lot of folks that decide to go ahead with having a genetically damaged baby are also selfish, and self important.

While there is a chance that some of these kids can be brought up to speed, the fact is they are part of the reason for the general decline in public schools over the last 20 years. Special needs students absorb over something over 30% of a teachers time in class, leaving the other 29 kids in class scrambling for the rest. Subtract another 20% of the time for serious troublemakers, and you have no chance to help the majority of the kids, or encourage the brightest.

Its called survival of the fittest for a reason, and for the Right to Lifers (not the pro lifers)
it is the same old story. Protect from conception to birth, then bitch about the load on the welfare state because of women and kids trapped in poverty.

the article below, about autistic kids has a figure of 90 billion a year in costs for learning disabled. they just raised my tobacco tax 2000% because of a guess that smokers cost the country 47 billion a year( let alone that tobaco itself may not be bad for you, could just be all the additives) and the cost for diabetes at 147 billion a year because of all the sugar in our diets, think the self rightous have to use a religion to protect their demands on resources.

As for the whole Palin dispute, think that it is disengenious. for one thing, think its her daughters kid, and to ask her to show the original birth certificate is not out of line because she demanded one of her political opponents to show a marriage license. 

here is the article on another genetic disease that had a breakthrough. Still think the original article has a valid argument on its own standing, and the love shown by the families on these kids is commendable. The lack of shame for taking resources that would help 50% more kids is not evident anywhere however. For a preventable, and known, condition, this is not very advantageous for the rest of the families in the world.

Drug reverses mental retardation caused by genetic disorder
UCLA mouse study offers hope for correcting how autism disrupts brain

UCLA researchers discovered that an FDA-approved drug reverses the brain dysfunction inflicted by a genetic disease called tuberous sclerosis complex (TSC). Because half of TSC patients also suffer from autism, the findings offer new hope for addressing learning disorders due to autism. Nature Medicine publishes the findings in its online June 22 edition.

Using a mouse model for TSC, the scientists tested rapamycin, a drug approved by the FDA to fight tissue rejection following organ transplants. Rapamycin is well-known for targeting an enzyme involved in making proteins needed for memory. The UCLA team chose it because the same enzyme is also regulated by TSC proteins.

&quot;This is the first study to demonstrate that the drug rapamycin can repair learning deficits related to a genetic mutation that causes autism in humans. The same mutation in animals produces learning disorders, which we were able to eliminate in adult mice,&quot; explained principal investigator Dr. Alcino Silva, professor of neurobiology and psychiatry at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. &quot;Our work and other recent studies suggest that some forms of mental retardation can be reversed, even in the adult brain.&quot;

&quot;These findings challenge the theory that abnormal brain development is to blame for mental impairment in tuberous sclerosis,&quot; added first author Dan Ehninger, postgraduate researcher in neurobiology. &quot;Our research shows that the disease&#039;s learning problems are caused by reversible changes in brain function -- not by permanent damage to the developing brain.&quot;

TSC is a devastating genetic disorder that disrupts how the brain works, often causing severe mental retardation. Even in mild cases, learning disabilities and short-term memory problems are common. Half of all TSC patients also suffer from autism and epilepsy. The disorder strikes one in 6,000 people, making it twice as common as Huntington&#039;s or Lou Gehrig&#039;s disease.

Silva and Ehninger studied mice bred with TSC and verified that the animals suffered from the same severe learning difficulties as human patients. Next, the UCLA team traced the source of the learning problems to biochemical changes sparking abnormal function of the hippocampus, a brain structure that plays a key role in memory.

&quot;Memory is as much about discarding trivial details as it is about storing useful information,&quot; said Silva, a member of the UCLA Department of Psychology and UCLA Brain Research Institute. &quot;Our findings suggest that mice with the mutation cannot distinguish between important and unimportant data. We suspect that their brains are filled with meaningless noise that interferes with learning.&quot;

&quot;After only three days of treatment, the TSC mice learned as quickly as the healthy mice,&quot; said Ehninger. &quot;The rapamycin corrected the biochemistry, reversed the learning deficits and restored normal hippocampal function, allowing the mice&#039;s brains to store memories properly.&quot;

In January, Silva presented his study at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke meeting, where he was approached by Dr. Petrus de Vries, who studies TSC patients and leads rapamycin clinical trials at the University of Cambridge. After discussing their respective findings, the two researchers began collaborating on a clinical trial currently taking place at Cambridge to examine whether rapamycin can restore short-term memory in TSC patients.

&quot;The United States spends roughly $90 billion a year on remedial programs to address learning disorders,&quot; noted Silva. &quot;Our research offers hope to patients affected by tuberous sclerosis and to their families. The new findings suggest that rapamycin could provide therapeutic value in treating similar symptoms in people affected by the disorder.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems as though a lot of folks that decide to go ahead with having a genetically damaged baby are also selfish, and self important.</p>
<p>While there is a chance that some of these kids can be brought up to speed, the fact is they are part of the reason for the general decline in public schools over the last 20 years. Special needs students absorb over something over 30% of a teachers time in class, leaving the other 29 kids in class scrambling for the rest. Subtract another 20% of the time for serious troublemakers, and you have no chance to help the majority of the kids, or encourage the brightest.</p>
<p>Its called survival of the fittest for a reason, and for the Right to Lifers (not the pro lifers)<br />
it is the same old story. Protect from conception to birth, then bitch about the load on the welfare state because of women and kids trapped in poverty.</p>
<p>the article below, about autistic kids has a figure of 90 billion a year in costs for learning disabled. they just raised my tobacco tax 2000% because of a guess that smokers cost the country 47 billion a year( let alone that tobaco itself may not be bad for you, could just be all the additives) and the cost for diabetes at 147 billion a year because of all the sugar in our diets, think the self rightous have to use a religion to protect their demands on resources.</p>
<p>As for the whole Palin dispute, think that it is disengenious. for one thing, think its her daughters kid, and to ask her to show the original birth certificate is not out of line because she demanded one of her political opponents to show a marriage license. </p>
<p>here is the article on another genetic disease that had a breakthrough. Still think the original article has a valid argument on its own standing, and the love shown by the families on these kids is commendable. The lack of shame for taking resources that would help 50% more kids is not evident anywhere however. For a preventable, and known, condition, this is not very advantageous for the rest of the families in the world.</p>
<p>Drug reverses mental retardation caused by genetic disorder<br />
UCLA mouse study offers hope for correcting how autism disrupts brain</p>
<p>UCLA researchers discovered that an FDA-approved drug reverses the brain dysfunction inflicted by a genetic disease called tuberous sclerosis complex (TSC). Because half of TSC patients also suffer from autism, the findings offer new hope for addressing learning disorders due to autism. Nature Medicine publishes the findings in its online June 22 edition.</p>
<p>Using a mouse model for TSC, the scientists tested rapamycin, a drug approved by the FDA to fight tissue rejection following organ transplants. Rapamycin is well-known for targeting an enzyme involved in making proteins needed for memory. The UCLA team chose it because the same enzyme is also regulated by TSC proteins.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the first study to demonstrate that the drug rapamycin can repair learning deficits related to a genetic mutation that causes autism in humans. The same mutation in animals produces learning disorders, which we were able to eliminate in adult mice,&#8221; explained principal investigator Dr. Alcino Silva, professor of neurobiology and psychiatry at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. &#8220;Our work and other recent studies suggest that some forms of mental retardation can be reversed, even in the adult brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;These findings challenge the theory that abnormal brain development is to blame for mental impairment in tuberous sclerosis,&#8221; added first author Dan Ehninger, postgraduate researcher in neurobiology. &#8220;Our research shows that the disease&#8217;s learning problems are caused by reversible changes in brain function &#8212; not by permanent damage to the developing brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>TSC is a devastating genetic disorder that disrupts how the brain works, often causing severe mental retardation. Even in mild cases, learning disabilities and short-term memory problems are common. Half of all TSC patients also suffer from autism and epilepsy. The disorder strikes one in 6,000 people, making it twice as common as Huntington&#8217;s or Lou Gehrig&#8217;s disease.</p>
<p>Silva and Ehninger studied mice bred with TSC and verified that the animals suffered from the same severe learning difficulties as human patients. Next, the UCLA team traced the source of the learning problems to biochemical changes sparking abnormal function of the hippocampus, a brain structure that plays a key role in memory.</p>
<p>&#8220;Memory is as much about discarding trivial details as it is about storing useful information,&#8221; said Silva, a member of the UCLA Department of Psychology and UCLA Brain Research Institute. &#8220;Our findings suggest that mice with the mutation cannot distinguish between important and unimportant data. We suspect that their brains are filled with meaningless noise that interferes with learning.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;After only three days of treatment, the TSC mice learned as quickly as the healthy mice,&#8221; said Ehninger. &#8220;The rapamycin corrected the biochemistry, reversed the learning deficits and restored normal hippocampal function, allowing the mice&#8217;s brains to store memories properly.&#8221;</p>
<p>In January, Silva presented his study at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke meeting, where he was approached by Dr. Petrus de Vries, who studies TSC patients and leads rapamycin clinical trials at the University of Cambridge. After discussing their respective findings, the two researchers began collaborating on a clinical trial currently taking place at Cambridge to examine whether rapamycin can restore short-term memory in TSC patients.</p>
<p>&#8220;The United States spends roughly $90 billion a year on remedial programs to address learning disorders,&#8221; noted Silva. &#8220;Our research offers hope to patients affected by tuberous sclerosis and to their families. The new findings suggest that rapamycin could provide therapeutic value in treating similar symptoms in people affected by the disorder.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anon2</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30631</link>
		<dc:creator>anon2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s still up there, if this is what you&#039;re talking about.

&quot;When parents knowingly give birth to a child with severe disability or defect it is basically Münchhausen’s by proxy. They may not be directly inflicting harm on the child they still seek the same psychological rewards.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still up there, if this is what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>&#8220;When parents knowingly give birth to a child with severe disability or defect it is basically Münchhausen’s by proxy. They may not be directly inflicting harm on the child they still seek the same psychological rewards.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pastorius</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30630</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will also echo Damien&#039;s question to you, David:

Do you realize that your argument could be used as a reason to force women against their will into having abortions? Think about it. You just compared Palin’s choice to bring Trig to term to rape. “But what can we say about a parent that chooses a life of suffering upon their child? If we are morally outraged by child rapists, how should we judge a parent who chooses a lifetime of suffering on their own child?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will also echo Damien&#8217;s question to you, David:</p>
<p>Do you realize that your argument could be used as a reason to force women against their will into having abortions? Think about it. You just compared Palin’s choice to bring Trig to term to rape. “But what can we say about a parent that chooses a life of suffering upon their child? If we are morally outraged by child rapists, how should we judge a parent who chooses a lifetime of suffering on their own child?”</p>
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		<title>By: Pastorius</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30629</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I repeat my question, David:

Who took the comment down which said that bringing a child into the world “with severe disability or defect it is basically Münchhausen’s by proxy”?

Who took that comment down, and why?

Answer my question, you fucking pussy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat my question, David:</p>
<p>Who took the comment down which said that bringing a child into the world “with severe disability or defect it is basically Münchhausen’s by proxy”?</p>
<p>Who took that comment down, and why?</p>
<p>Answer my question, you fucking pussy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pastorius</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30626</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastorius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who took the comment down which said that bringing a child into the world &quot;with severe disability or defect it is basically Münchhausen&#039;s by proxy&quot;?

Who took that comment down, and why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who took the comment down which said that bringing a child into the world &#8220;with severe disability or defect it is basically Münchhausen&#8217;s by proxy&#8221;?</p>
<p>Who took that comment down, and why?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic Charmer</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/08/30/freaks-on-parade/comment-page-2/#comment-30625</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonic Charmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks obvious to me there is only one side of this discussion that seeks to &quot;sacrifice&quot; people in the name of some ideology.  And, it isn&#039;t Sarah Palin&#039;s side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks obvious to me there is only one side of this discussion that seeks to &#8220;sacrifice&#8221; people in the name of some ideology.  And, it isn&#8217;t Sarah Palin&#8217;s side.</p>
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