Comments on: Do compact fluorescent lights really save energy? http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/ Intellectual activism in defense of the American way of life. Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:49:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jose Gomis http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-30265 Jose Gomis Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:04:54 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/#comment-30265 We all think, we know the effects of mercury emission by limits of volume dissipation. We know that the dangerous dissipation is reduces with time but if you are working with the lamp(s) at the time of dangerous dissipation before the danger is pass you would be in trouble and become sick, with time and no one disagrees with this fact or thinking! The protection is needed when the operation of the lamp starts to decay the glass and a hole is made in the glass or when handling lamp(s) they break and the person is in the route of the dangerous level of mercury dissipation, and without protection. It’s not that one or a small number of lamps breaking is safe in a large area but that the personal (or you at home) are out of the dangerous route of travel of the unsafe amount, that is dangerous to our health, before it disseminated to a safe level! If you are working over or under a breakage event, of not one lamp but a small group of lamps, box or boxes of lamps, our bodies can, and does have the potential to inhale, the poisonous and dangerous amount of mercury vapor. Not that it will kill you at the time, but it could or will slowly make you sick, with many symptoms, some years down the line. And if you do this over and over, with out know it, it could or will be hazardous to your health! Also if the material,(fluorescent power, droplets, or vapor) accumulated in one area, this can and does give off the poisonous mercury vapor from that location. Be it in a rug, floor drain, just carks in the floor, air handler filters and duct work of the H &A/C system in that space. Would you want to be in the route of this poisonous, mercury vapor. no matter how small it is? If we look at the EPA waste management rules for small quanity of waste lamps, and other rules and/or guideline we are told the after any breakage of a lamp you level that room for 15 to 30 minute and to air out or ventilate the space and/or route of dissapation when one lamp breakes and more time is need if a large lammmp or group of lamps break. Plus it must be followed up by a perpor clean-up that is truely a small haza-mat operation. No brooms, No shop vac unless aproved for the perpouse of mercury vacuuming. Must put all waste material and items used in the clean-up in plastic bag or container that is sealable and will not break in the garage up service to protect the invironment. Fore give spelling and way of think for I have mercury poisoning and my order of think and spelling is loss at times which is one of the symptoms of mercury poisoning. Mayhave alredy sent one smaller report! Jose Gomis We all think, we know the effects of mercury emission by limits of volume dissipation.
We know that the dangerous dissipation is reduces with time but if you are working with the lamp(s) at the time of dangerous dissipation before the danger is pass you would be in trouble and become sick, with time and no one disagrees with this fact or thinking!

The protection is needed when the operation of the lamp starts to decay the glass and a hole is made in the glass or when handling lamp(s) they break and the person is in the route of the dangerous level of mercury dissipation, and without protection.

It’s not that one or a small number of lamps breaking is safe in a large area but that the personal (or you at home) are out of the dangerous route of travel of the unsafe amount, that is dangerous to our health, before it disseminated to a safe level!

If you are working over or under a breakage event, of not one lamp but a small group of lamps, box or boxes of lamps, our bodies can, and does have the potential to inhale, the poisonous and dangerous amount of mercury vapor.

Not that it will kill you at the time, but it could or will slowly make you sick, with many symptoms, some years down the line. And if you do this over and over, with out know it, it could or will be hazardous to your health!

Also if the material,(fluorescent power, droplets, or vapor) accumulated in one area, this can and does give off the poisonous mercury vapor from that location. Be it in a rug, floor drain, just carks in the floor, air handler filters and duct work of the H &A/C system in that space.

Would you want to be in the route of this poisonous, mercury vapor. no matter
how small it is?

If we look at the EPA waste management rules for small quanity of waste lamps, and other rules and/or guideline we are told the after any breakage of a lamp you level that room for 15 to 30 minute and to air out or ventilate the space and/or route of dissapation when one lamp breakes and more time is need if a large lammmp or group of lamps break. Plus it must be followed up by a perpor clean-up that is truely a small haza-mat operation.

No brooms,
No shop vac unless aproved for the perpouse of mercury vacuuming.
Must put all waste material and items used in the clean-up in plastic bag or container that is sealable and will not break in the garage up service to protect the invironment.

Fore give spelling and way of think for I have mercury poisoning and my order of think and spelling is loss at times which is one of the symptoms of mercury poisoning. Mayhave alredy sent one smaller report!

Jose Gomis

]]> By: Do compact fluorescent lights really save energy? - Radical Idealism http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-23357 Do compact fluorescent lights really save energy? - Radical Idealism Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:40:22 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/#comment-23357 [...] forcing consumers to switch to more efficient lights might actually increase their energy usage.(Crossposted) Filed under: environmentalism, [...] [...] forcing consumers to switch to more efficient lights might actually increase their energy usage.(Crossposted) Filed under: environmentalism, [...]

]]> By: Galileo Blogs http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/comment-page-1/#comment-23352 Galileo Blogs Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:23:15 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/14/do-compact-fluorescent-lights-really-save-energy/#comment-23352 Nice analysis. Of course, this is a likely outcome of the switch to compact fluorescents. Extending this line of reasoning to the mandatory efforts to reduce gasoline consumption, to the extent cars burn less gasoline for each mile driven, people will be willing to drive more. That will compromise the alleged goal of reducing gasoline consumption. Nice analysis. Of course, this is a likely outcome of the switch to compact fluorescents.

Extending this line of reasoning to the mandatory efforts to reduce gasoline consumption, to the extent cars burn less gasoline for each mile driven, people will be willing to drive more. That will compromise the alleged goal of reducing gasoline consumption.

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