Comments on: Pro-down syndrome: a moral atrocity http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/ Thoughts on man and his universe Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:01:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: calculador hipotecas http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-37151 calculador hipotecas Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:24:59 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-37151 <strong>calculador hipotecas...</strong> [...]The Rational Mind » Pro-down syndrome: a moral atrocity[...]... calculador hipotecas…

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]]> By: junius http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-36065 junius Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:52:04 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-36065 and by the way my oldest brother was born with this complexity unlike you my bro had nothing but good things in his life. So humble yourself that it was not you JERK and by the way my oldest brother was born with this complexity unlike you my bro had nothing but good things in his life. So humble yourself that it was not you JERK

]]> By: junius http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-36064 junius Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:49:26 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-36064 Sir, I hope that GOD has mercy upon your lost soul, keep you in my prayers Sir, I hope that GOD has mercy upon your lost soul, keep you in my prayers

]]> By: Bob Battersby http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-33043 Bob Battersby Sun, 22 May 2011 23:54:30 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-33043 Is this an Illuminati (Old World élite) website. The hankerings confirm this. engage to then disengage and define the world by structures we make and control not this rotten élite Is this an Illuminati (Old World élite) website. The hankerings confirm this. engage to then disengage and define the world by structures we make and control not this rotten élite

]]> By: Mom of an angel http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-30445 Mom of an angel Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:27:14 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-30445 Wow! I think that you are not well suited for human life. By reading your post I would say that your intelligence is below normal. If a pill were available to make my daughters down syndrome go away...I would not give it to her, I would not change who she is! And she wouldn't change who she is either. She loves her life. Wow! I think that you are not well suited for human life. By reading your post I would say that your intelligence is below normal. If a pill were available to make my daughters down syndrome go away…I would not give it to her, I would not change who she is! And she wouldn’t change who she is either. She loves her life.

]]> By: ben's mom http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-30305 ben's mom Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:54:47 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-30305 Only the ignorant and uniformed can spout off as you do. I am saddened that you do not truly understand the worth of a soul. I hope that one day you will allow yourself to see past your prejudices and see individuals with Down Syndrome for what they are instead of what you mistakenly see them to be. Oh, you have so much to learn! Only the ignorant and uniformed can spout off as you do. I am saddened that you do not truly understand the worth of a soul. I hope that one day you will allow yourself to see past your prejudices and see individuals with Down Syndrome for what they are instead of what you mistakenly see them to be. Oh, you have so much to learn!

]]> By: Jeff Credille http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-29847 Jeff Credille Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:37:00 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-29847 David, I googled down syndrome because my wife and I just recently had a BEAUTIFUL baby girl that just happens to have down syndrome. I stumbled across your article and I am shocked by what you had to say in your article. What is your suggestion to the family of someone that becomes metally disabled due to an accident? Abortion is murder and there is NO WAY that anyone can justify that it is not. If the "mass" inside of a female is not a living being then why does a procedure have to be done to "get rid" of it? Life is precious and the blessings that we have already received from our baby is unmeasurable. I THANK GOD that HE saw fit to bless us with our beautiful baby that just happens to have down syndrome. GOOD LUCK to YOU in your "normal world". JEFF David, I googled down syndrome because my wife and I just recently had a BEAUTIFUL baby girl that just happens to have down syndrome. I stumbled across your article and I am shocked by what you had to say in your article. What is your suggestion to the family of someone that becomes metally disabled due to an accident? Abortion is murder and there is NO WAY that anyone can justify that it is not. If the “mass” inside of a female is not a living being then why does a procedure have to be done to “get rid” of it? Life is precious and the blessings that we have already received from our baby is unmeasurable. I THANK GOD that HE saw fit to bless us with our beautiful baby that just happens to have down syndrome. GOOD LUCK to YOU in your “normal world”.
JEFF

]]> By: Dionna Standridge http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-29833 Dionna Standridge Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:31:38 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-29833 David, I too have the gut feeling that you do not have a child with downs. Nor have you ever spent much, if any, with a person with downs. So your case of ignorence is easy to over look. At first I only wanted to introduce you to "People First" language.The correct way to address citizens with Downs Syndrome is... "child or person with downs" Not "downs child or downs person" It's a bit difficult to be a diagnosis befor being a person. Then, after reading some of this, I have decided to put in my two cents. I am the PROUD GRANDMOTHER of 8 grandchildren. The 6th happens to have downs syndrome.And I can tell you this, he is the light of his whole family's life. Having him has strenghtened our whole family. He is a true blessing. I feel that it a true shame that you have not had the wonderful experience of getting to know someone with downs. If you only had the ability of having an open, mind long enough to allow someone with downs to show you the way, I believe that you would see things much differently. Good Luck in Life David, I too have the gut feeling that you do not have a child with downs. Nor have you ever spent much, if any, with a person with downs. So your case of ignorence is easy to over look. At first I only wanted to introduce you to “People First” language.The correct way to address citizens with Downs Syndrome is… “child or person with downs” Not “downs child or downs person” It’s a bit difficult to be a diagnosis befor being a person. Then, after reading some of this, I have decided to put in my two cents. I am the PROUD GRANDMOTHER of 8 grandchildren. The 6th happens to have downs syndrome.And I can tell you this, he is the light of his whole family’s life. Having him has strenghtened our whole family. He is a true blessing. I feel that it a true shame that you have not had the wonderful experience of getting to know someone with downs. If you only had the ability of having an open, mind long enough to allow someone with downs to show you the way, I believe that you would see things much differently. Good Luck in Life

]]> By: Ashley http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-24089 Ashley Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:07:11 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-24089 David, I can't say I disagree with you more. I do however agree that it is sorry for any one to "want" a child to have down syndrome or any other handicap for that matter, BUT they are handling the matter the way they know how and loving their child the way they know how. I do, however, believe that abortion because of a handicap is sad to say the least. My mother was pregnant with triplets at one point in time, she was told to abort baby A because he was the weakest out of A, B, and C. Doctors told her that if she carried all three babies she could potentionally die of heath risk factors. My mother, (not being a religious person) couldn't chance taking the 'future' life of her children away with her own will, so she chose to do nothing. Two weeks later, baby C was misscarried. Babies A and B were born at 24 weeks gestation and sadly after one hour of life baby B took her last breath. Baby A was supposed to be the aborted baby, BUT is 9 years old today and very healthy! He was supposed to have down syndrome, epilepsy, cerebal palsy and be blinde and deaf (according to doctors) BUT he is alive and HEALTHY! Truth is, it is everyone's personal decision, BUT you will love your child no matter how healthy or unhealthy they are, but who would want to take the risk of killing their child when sooo many times doctors are wrong, or they are right and GOD or nature (as some believe) steps in and reverses the cycle of destruction and the baby is completely healthy! Life is right to all living things, just as a seed isn't a flower yet, but with inplantation and nutrients it become ALIVE with roots and then sprigs up into a flower, life began when the seed sprouted and began growing within the ground, not when it started showing it's greenery on top of the dirt. David,
I can’t say I disagree with you more. I do however agree that it is sorry for any one to “want” a child to have down syndrome or any other handicap for that matter, BUT they are handling the matter the way they know how and loving their child the way they know how. I do, however, believe that abortion because of a handicap is sad to say the least. My mother was pregnant with triplets at one point in time, she was told to abort baby A because he was the weakest out of A, B, and C. Doctors told her that if she carried all three babies she could potentionally die of heath risk factors. My mother, (not being a religious person) couldn’t chance taking the ‘future’ life of her children away with her own will, so she chose to do nothing. Two weeks later, baby C was misscarried. Babies A and B were born at 24 weeks gestation and sadly after one hour of life baby B took her last breath. Baby A was supposed to be the aborted baby, BUT is 9 years old today and very healthy! He was supposed to have down syndrome, epilepsy, cerebal palsy and be blinde and deaf (according to doctors) BUT he is alive and HEALTHY! Truth is, it is everyone’s personal decision, BUT you will love your child no matter how healthy or unhealthy they are, but who would want to take the risk of killing their child when sooo many times doctors are wrong, or they are right and GOD or nature (as some believe) steps in and reverses the cycle of destruction and the baby is completely healthy!
Life is right to all living things, just as a seed isn’t a flower yet, but with inplantation and nutrients it become ALIVE with roots and then sprigs up into a flower, life began when the seed sprouted and began growing within the ground, not when it started showing it’s greenery on top of the dirt.

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-23152 Jennifer Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:13:45 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-23152 My 7 month old son with Down Syndrome is the biggest blessing I have ever known in my life. I wouldn't change him for all the money in the world. People with the attitude of "david" will never and enjoy one of God's greatest gifts and rightfully so. You say "How anyone can want someone below normal is beyond me." My son is totally normal and perfect in my eyes. And after looking at your photo I say how anyone can want someone with yellow teeth is beyond me. Blah on you. My 7 month old son with Down Syndrome is the biggest blessing I have ever known in my life. I wouldn’t change him for all the money in the world. People with the attitude of “david” will never and enjoy one of God’s greatest gifts and rightfully so.

You say “How anyone can want someone below normal is beyond me.” My son is totally normal and perfect in my eyes. And after looking at your photo I say how anyone can want someone with yellow teeth is beyond me. Blah on you.

]]> By: Dana http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-22938 Dana Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:18:08 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-22938 You know i found out when i was 5 mo pregnant with my daughter that she has Down syndrome. it didnt make a bit of difference to me, she is my lil girl and i was bringing her into this world. My daughter Stormy is now 19mo old. She is one of the best things in my life. When i found out i had so many people tell me not to bring her into this world and let me tell you what everyone one of them are no EATING their words. Children with Down Syndrome are wonderful, caring, loving and happy children. You talk as if they are aliens or something well here is a news flash. THE ARE HUMAN TOO AND THEY HAVE FEELINGS JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. So why dont you take ur dumbass bullshit and shove it. Back off and let people make their choice on their own. REMEMBER CHILDREN TURN INTO ADULTS WEITHER THEY HAVE DOWN SYNDROME OR NOT. ITS HOW THEY ARE RAISED AND LOVED THAT HELPS THEM LEARN TO BE WHO THEY ARE. MY GUESS UR LIFE GROWING UP SUCKED CAUSE UR A HEARTLESS ASSHOLE You know i found out when i was 5 mo pregnant with my daughter that she has Down syndrome. it didnt make a bit of difference to me, she is my lil girl and i was bringing her into this world. My daughter Stormy is now 19mo old. She is one of the best things in my life. When i found out i had so many people tell me not to bring her into this world and let me tell you what everyone one of them are no EATING their words. Children with Down Syndrome are wonderful, caring, loving and happy children. You talk as if they are aliens or something well here is a news flash. THE ARE HUMAN TOO AND THEY HAVE FEELINGS JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. So why dont you take ur dumbass bullshit and shove it. Back off and let people make their choice on their own. REMEMBER CHILDREN TURN INTO ADULTS WEITHER THEY HAVE DOWN SYNDROME OR NOT. ITS HOW THEY ARE RAISED AND LOVED THAT HELPS THEM LEARN TO BE WHO THEY ARE. MY GUESS UR LIFE GROWING UP SUCKED CAUSE UR A HEARTLESS ASSHOLE

]]> By: Proudmama2aboywithDS http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-22933 Proudmama2aboywithDS Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:38:32 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-22933 I just want to say as a mother of a son with DS and a women that works with adults with Ds that it is very sad that you really have rocks for brains, DS is NOT a disease and people do not suffer from it, you disgust me. And as for Abrakas response I am also very truly sorry for you and the way you feel for your step-son, I mean your husbands son as you put it. In My personal experience some people with DS don't talk or learnt anything as you put it. But that has also been the minority, most of the individuals that I work with have jobs, boyfriends,girlfriends and friends, they participate in the things that all people do, so again I am sorry if your family is unhappy with him, I just hope that you don't let him read this, I would be unhappy too if my family didnt want me. People with DS should be treasured and treated just as any other person would be, Educate yourselves,you might just enjoy the blessings that surround you! I just want to say as a mother of a son with DS and a women that works with adults with Ds that it is very sad that you really have rocks for brains, DS is NOT a disease and people do not suffer from it, you disgust me. And as for Abrakas response I am also very truly sorry for you and the way you feel for your step-son, I mean your husbands son as you put it. In My personal experience some people with DS don’t talk or learnt anything as you put it. But that has also been the minority, most of the individuals that I work with have jobs, boyfriends,girlfriends and friends, they participate in the things that all people do, so again I am sorry if your family is unhappy with him, I just hope that you don’t let him read this, I would be unhappy too if my family didnt want me.
People with DS should be treasured and treated just as any other person would be, Educate yourselves,you might just enjoy the blessings that surround you!

]]> By: ladymomdonna http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-22931 ladymomdonna Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:51:41 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-22931 um.... as I read your words I can tell that your life is worth squat and thus the post you created about DS-in your case DS stands for DUMBSHIT- I bet you have killed a special baby and now you're justifying---your life is sad. Remember...the circle IS round um…. as I read your words I can tell that your life is worth squat and thus the post you created about DS-in your case DS stands for DUMBSHIT- I bet you have killed a special baby and now you’re justifying—your life is sad. Remember…the circle IS round

]]> By: Melanie http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/comment-page-2/#comment-22926 Melanie Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:48:47 +0000 http://www.rationalmind.net/2007/05/10/pro-down-syndrome-a-moral-atrocity/#comment-22926 Your birth country explains a lot. The value of human life in substandard countries is much lower than what we all know and respect, here in the good ol' USofA. And, let me say that you may have graduated from TAMU, but you are NO AGGIE, pal. There's not anyone in BCS that would claim your ass. It is true that many children born with DS suffer substandard existences later on because of their economic status. But, so do 90% of inner-city children. So, here's a test for pregnant mommies. Question: Do you live inside the city limits of a metropolitan area that has a half-million people or more? If so, abort immediately. That's how ludicrous you are being. I have a daughter with DS who is five years old. She has a trust fund and will start Kindergarten on time because she has met all of her intellectual benchmarks. Hmmmm.... kinda blows holes in your financial and intellectual reasonings. God, it hurts my heart to know that you went to TAMU, which is more than just a superior educational institution — it's the spirit of Aggieland, man. And, you didn't absorb a drop of it while you were there. By the way, you and your lovely lady in the picture on your bio are perfectly matched. Your birth country explains a lot. The value of human life in substandard countries is much lower than what we all know and respect, here in the good ol’ USofA. And, let me say that you may have graduated from TAMU, but you are NO AGGIE, pal. There’s not anyone in BCS that would claim your ass.

It is true that many children born with DS suffer substandard existences later on because of their economic status. But, so do 90% of inner-city children. So, here’s a test for pregnant mommies. Question: Do you live inside the city limits of a metropolitan area that has a half-million people or more? If so, abort immediately. That’s how ludicrous you are being.

I have a daughter with DS who is five years old. She has a trust fund and will start Kindergarten on time because she has met all of her intellectual benchmarks. Hmmmm…. kinda blows holes in your financial and intellectual reasonings.

God, it hurts my heart to know that you went to TAMU, which is more than just a superior educational institution — it’s the spirit of Aggieland, man. And, you didn’t absorb a drop of it while you were there. By the way, you and your lovely lady in the picture on your bio are perfectly matched.

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